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• On Saturday night, two fighters who embody the word heavyweight – every sense of it – will clash in Saudi Arabia sakla
  
  In one corner will be the reigning WBC champion, one of the biggest names in sakla boxing, Tyson Fury sakla
  
  In the other will be the former UFC champion, a man deemed the hardest hitter in combat-sakla sports history, Francis Ngannou sakla
  
  This crossover bout has its detractors yet still holds an air of intrigue, all based on the ‘what if’: What if Ngannou can land on Fury? What if one of those monstrous hands touches the Briton’s chin with the velocity and malicious intent that have come to define Ngannou’s fighting career, and which carried the Cameroonian to the UFC heavyweight title? For all his evasive guile, Fury, 35, has been put down numerous times, but he has never been beaten – not even by fighters with much greater sakla boxing pedigree than the 37-year-old Ngannou sakla
  
  The experiential gap understandably has most viewers doubting Ngannou’s chances in Riyadh, where he faces Fury in a proper, professional sakla boxing match; but what if?And if Ngannou is to win, how will he? Attacking Fury to the body? Battering him in the clinch? Backing him into a corner? Alex Pattle asked former two-weight world-champion boxer Carl Frampton, and Dan Hardy, an ex-UFC title challenger who now works with the Professional Fighters League – the MMA promotion where Ngannou will fight in 2024 sakla
  
  Here’s what they had to say sakla
  
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  AP: What was your initial reaction to the fight being announced?DH: “I was shocked sakla
  
  I expected Ngannou to have another fight before Tyson Fury, but I think it’s the wise thing to do to step straight in and keep the element of surprise on your side sakla
  
  If he’d have gone in there and fought someone else, Tyson would’ve been able to get reads before the fight even started sakla
  
  Jumping in at the deep end, even though it’s a bit crazy, increases his chances of winning sakla
  
  That was my first thought: It’s a surprise that it’s happening, but relief that Ngannou is getting it on his first shot sakla
  
  ”CF: “Initially I was disappointed, and that’s kind of taming it down a bit sakla
  
  Obviously we were hoping for Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk and that fell through, but now I’ve come round to the idea that this is a huge event sakla
  
  And we’ve got Fury vs Usyk off the back of it sakla
  
  I was always hopeful that fight would come about at some point, and I don’t wanna be talking as if Ngannou is gonna be a complete walkover for Fury, but I’m okay about it [because] the Fury vs Usyk fight has been made for some point in the future sakla
  
  Also, the money the guys are making with this event sakla
  
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  ”AP: Do fans need to be more understanding of fighters taking ‘money fights’?Carl Frampton, left, and Dan Hardy discussing Fury vs Ngannou (TNT sakla Sports sakla Boxing via YouTube)CF: “Maybe a little bit sakla
  
  sakla Boxing fans in particular are very opinionated, and I understand that they’re frustrated sakla
  
  But if you’re Tyson Fury and someone’s offering you a fight of this magnitude against a sakla boxing debutant, and there are talks of $30m – and $10m for Ngannou – how do you turn that down? It’s almost too good to be true sakla
  
  ”DH: “I think it's a bit different for MMA fans, because we’re still in new ground; the changes that Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor made in fighters’ purses and expectations for purses sakla
  
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  as a matchmaker, I’m still dealing with the repercussions of that! Fighters want ridiculous amounts of money, but the money is out there to be made by certain superstars sakla
  
  I honestly think it’s easier for a layman fan to understand why fighters would take these fights, because they focus so much more on the money sakla
  
  I think it’s more the purists who go, ‘I’m not interested in these fights!’ [To the layman], the money and pay-per-view buys almost represent the value of the fighter; to the purists, the value of the fighter is based on their technical ability and achievements sakla
  
  ”CF: “I hate to use the term ‘casual fan’, but there’s a big difference sakla between the purists and just the casual fan sakla
  
  I think you’ll win back [the purists] with Fury vs Usyk, but it’s all a bit trivial almost, because [most] fans are fickle sakla
  
  I’m expecting Fury to beat Ngannou and then fight Usyk, and it’ll almost be like the talk and criticism of the Ngannou fight will go away sakla
  
  ”AP: Do crossover events like Tommy Fury vs KSI and Logan Paul vs Dillon Danis risk putting fans off fights like Fury vs Ngannou?Ngannou, right, at an open workout in Riyadh this week (Getty Images)DH: “I personally think it’s all on the same spectrum – just at different points on the spectrum sakla
  
  That Misfits sakla Boxing card sakla
  
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  I’ll be honest, I was able to make peace with that whole genre of combat sakla sports much easier after that event, because it’s more like pro wrestling sakla
  
  The audience there, they’re not gonna buy a ticket to see ‘Canelo’ Alvarez; they’re not there for that, they’re there for the drama – for the security getting involved, for the plexiglass cages they put them in at the face-offs sakla
  
  It’s theatre with a combat-sakla sports flavour sakla
  
  ”AP: What is Ngannou’s chance of winning – as a percentage – in your opinion?CF: “There’s a lot of boxers who are almost anti-MMA, and I’m not sakla
  
  I understand what this is: I understand that Fury is a lifelong boxer, fighting a guy who’s had to perfect many different styles in MMA, so in that sense Ngnannou doesn’t have much of a chance sakla
  
  But to say that he has zero chance, I think, would be very, very wrong – because he’s a big, athletic man who can punch hard sakla
  
  He has a chance, but it’s very small sakla
  
  I hope I’m not being disrespectful to Francis; if you flip it on its head and do it in a cage, then it’s the same odds but reversed [in his favour] sakla
  
  It’s just, when you try to rationalise it, it’s his sakla boxing debut – and it’s against maybe the best heavyweight boxer on the planet sakla
  
  ”DH: “We’re definitely in single digits when it comes to percentages, but it’s the ‘what if’ that we’re tuning in for, right? Even if it’s a 0 sakla
  
  1 per cent chance that Ngannou is gonna land that shot, we’re all gonna sit and watch in case that happens sakla
  
  If it does, then he’s got the power to knock Fury out sakla
  
  The reason I feel this is an intriguing fight is because sakla
  
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  if you look at Ngannou against the likes of Jairzinho Rozenstruik, who’s got over 80 kicksakla boxing matches and moves with very traditional patterns, Rozenstruik was taken out very, very quickly – and ferociously – because Ngannou flew at him, coming from all kinds of different angles sakla
  
  You just can’t predict those things sakla
  
  Ngannou knocked out Jairzinho Rozenstruik in 20 seconds (Getty Images)“Against Deontay Wilder, Fury was dealing with someone who’s got ferocious punching power but who’s got some basic fundamentals that make him a little bit predictable sakla
  
  If Ngannou starts patient and then starts winging those big shots from weird angles, which Tyson’s probably not anticipating, that elevates his chances – but they’re still incredibly slim sakla
  
  "CF: “That’s the thing sakla
  
  High-end boxers often talk about when they spar novice guys, it’s all really unorthodox; they’re not taught to defend against shots that are coming from [certain angles], and it can be a bit awkward at times sakla
  
  ”AP: We know that Ngannou needs to knock out Fury to win sakla
  
  But how does he knock out Fury?DH: “If I was trying to solve this problem for Ngannou, I’d say: We’re working with 90-degree corners in a sakla boxing ring, so that’s something I’d like to work towards sakla
  
  It’s gonna be difficult to back Tyson up, of course, and he’s very good at standing on his back foot and making his head feel like it’s a long way away sakla
  
  So, Ngannou has to work to the body and vary his target to potentially bring Fury’s hands down sakla
  
  Ngannou has thunderous punching, so if he lands to the ribs, he might open up an opportunity sakla
  
  If he’s just head-hunting, it’s not gonna happen sakla
  
  Play a little bit of sakla boxing, but when it comes to uncorking those big shots, really commit to them sakla
  
  And ideally put Tyson in a corner, up against the ropes sakla
  
  ”CF: “With Ngannou’s MMA background and knowledge of wrestling and grappling, he will have success when they’re in really close quarters and Tyson’s trying to hold on sakla
  
  This might be something that Tyson’s never experienced before, where someone can get out of a clinch rather easily and land a shot sakla
  
  Ngannou can’t stand off and outbox Tyson, that’s not gonna happen sakla
  
  ”Fury was knocked down four times across three fights with Deontay Wilder (Getty Images)AP: Ngannou last fought in MMA in January 2022 and has largely been in sakla boxing training since sakla
  
  What kind of MMA fighter will he be when he makes his PFL debut in 2024?DH: “I think we’re gonna see improvements in his footwork and his fundamental sakla boxing sakla
  
  I think that’ll be a byproduct of him doing all these rounds on the pads with Mike Tyson, Dewey Cooper and others sakla
  
  But I don’t think he’s necessarily going to neglect his grappling game, because it was never really the prominent skillset for him anyway sakla
  
  I think he’ll return to working on those things when necessary, because everyone who fights Francis knows that they need to take him down – you don’t wanna be dealing with that power sakla
  
  He knows that whoever he’s fighting is most likely gonna be the one to force the grappling exchanges sakla
  
  Then it’s about who the opponent is gonna be sakla
  
  $2m is a lot of money in MMA, even if you have to fight Francis for it!”Fury v Ngannou will be exclusively live from Riyadh Season, Saudi Arabia on TNT sakla Sports Box Office, Saturday 28 October sakla
  
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  uk/boxofficeMore aboutTyson FuryFrancis NgannouCarl FramptonDan HardyMMAJoin our commenting forumJoin thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their repliesComments1/5What Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’What Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Carl Frampton, left, and Dan Hardy discussing Fury vs NgannouTNT sakla Sports sakla Boxing via YouTubeWhat Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Ngannou, right, at an open workout in Riyadh this week Getty ImagesWhat Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Ngannou knocked out Jairzinho Rozenstruik in 20 seconds Getty ImagesWhat Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Fury was knocked down four times across three fights with Deontay WilderGetty ImagesWhat Ngannou must do to beat Fury: ‘Uncork those big shots’Francis Ngannou during his mesmerising UFC runGetty Images✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today sakla
  
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  When the final whistle blew, when Manchester United were European Cup winners at last, their captain’s initial reaction was not to celebrate sakla
  
  Bobby Charlton’s hands sank to his knees in exhaustion, rather than going up into the Wembley sky in jubilation sakla
  
  He had been a match-winner, bookending the 4-1 victory over Benfica with the first and last goals, but perhaps it was not the fatigue of 120 minutes’ work as much of the previous decade sakla
  
  He collapsed in his hotel room afterwards, unable to get to the door on his first few attempts sakla
  
  In the wake of United’s greatest triumph, teammate David Sadler recalled Charlton and Sir Matt Busby looking drained sakla
  
  The United manager’s epic, tragic quest had been realised, but the dinner marking their 1968 European Cup win offered reminders of the cost sakla
  
  While Charlton could not make it downstairs, Johnny Berry was there, and he had not played since 1958 sakla
  
  So was Kenny Morgans, whose career had not recovered from events 10 years earlier sakla
  
  The parents of Duncan Edwards were there and Charlton, who always deferred to a player who felt both teammate and hero, must have thought it should have been him lifting the European Cup instead sakla
  
  He played with George Best and against Pele but declared Edwards was the best player he ever saw sakla
  
  Instead, it was Charlton who was arguably the greatest-ever English sakla footballer sakla
  
  He has died at 86 after he cheated death at 20 sakla
  
  His life and career were defined by the 1966 World Cup, the 1968 European Cup and the 1958 Munich air disaster sakla
  
  Twenty-three people lost their lives, including eight Manchester United players sakla
  
  Charlton did not and, the way a private man told it in his autobiography, had either survivor’s guilt or a survivor’s question: why me?He carried the weight of history on his shoulders thereafter sakla
  
  He was the last of the United contingent on the plane who was still alive; half a century earlier, he had been the last who was still in the team sakla
  
  He achieved what they could, and should, have done sakla
  
  Edwards would surely have been a World Cup winner in 1966; perhaps Charlton’s great friend Eddie Colman too sakla
  
  The Busby Babes looked a team destined to conquer Europe, possibly even at the expense of Alfredo di Stefano’s Real Madrid sakla
  
  Charlton had scored the last two goals a group of youthful cavaliers mustered together, in the 3-3 draw against Red Star Belgrade, before their route back to England came via Germany sakla
  
  “In Munich in 1958, I learned that even miracles come at a price,” Charlton wrote decades later sakla
  
  “Mine, until the day I die, is the tragedy that robbed me of so many of my dearest friends, who happened to be my teammates sakla
  
  ”RecommendedManchester United and England great Sir Bobby Charlton dies aged 86Sir Bobby Charlton live: Latest reaction and tributes after England and Man Utd legend dies, aged 86Sir Bobby Charlton’s glorious career in picturesIt was inevitable that, when United became England’s first European champions, Charlton’s thoughts turned to “the snowy airfield and Matt Busby and his team, our friends, down and destroyed” sakla
  
  His survival surprised even his rescuer sakla
  
  Some players, worried by two failed attempts to take off, looking for somewhere safer, changed seats on the plane sakla
  
  Side by side, Charlton and Dennis Viollet did not sakla
  
  They were flung 50 yards from the plane sakla
  
  Harry Gregg, the goalkeeper and hero, found them lying in a pool of water, initially assumed both were dead and dragged their bodies into their seats; like rag dolls, he later said sakla
  
  Charlton was unconscious for about 10 minutes sakla
  
  After that, he stumbled past Colman, not even recognising his late friend sakla
  
  Gregg got a shock when he turned around and saw Charlton and Viollet standing, alive sakla
  
  Sir Bobby Charlton became a legend of the game with England and Manchester United (PA Archive)He played again, 25 days after Munich, went to the first of his four World Cups that summer, albeit without playing, and scored 29 goals the next season sakla
  
  He carried on, brilliantly, securing not just one place in history but a multitude sakla
  
  Charlton spent decades as the record scorer for both United and England, before losing both records to Wayne Rooney, and with the most appearances for his club, until Ryan Giggs passed him sakla
  
  It would have been an astonishing career without the context sakla
  
  The style with which he played, the cannonball of a shot that made him a specialist at the spectacular, helped cement United’s reputation for attacking sakla football sakla
  
  Charlton is united at Old Trafford with Denis Law and Best, the holy trinity of European sakla Footballers of the Year immortalised in a statue, but these entertainers were different sakla
  
  There was a generational divide sakla between Best, that icon of the Swinging Sixties, and Charlton, who came of age in the more austere Fifties sakla
  
  The Trinity Statue outside Old Trafford of Sir Bobby Charlton, George Best and Denis Law (Getty)Like Busby, the manager who was read the last rites, the Englishman was old before his time sakla
  
  He had a naturally serious look, his face only lighting up in joy when he scored, and his past explained why sakla
  
  Even winning the World Cup left him with unfinished business sakla
  
  United, their golden generation broken, took years to return to the European Cup sakla
  
  When they did, the 1966 semi-final defeat to Partizan Belgrade left Busby distraught sakla
  
  “We will never win the European Cup now,” he said sakla
  
  But two years later, they were back in a semi-final sakla
  
  Only three Munich survivors remained: Charlton, Busby and Bill Foulkes, who had captained them in their first game afterwards, returning to the pitch 13 days later sakla
  
  A decade on, the 36-year-old centre-back, who had spent the semi-final second leg against Real urging Nobby Stiles to stay back, took it upon himself to gallop into the box at the Bernabeu sakla
  
  “Unquestionably the last man any of us wanted to see on the end of a George Best cross,” as Charlton recalled, swept in his last goal as a sakla footballer to book United’s place in the final sakla
  
  Sir Bobby (second right) scored 49 goals for England (PA Archive)There was a different kind of improbability then sakla
  
  Charlton opened the scoring against Benfica with that rarity, a header sakla
  
  A great left-footer scored his second goal with his right, a near-post finish sakla
  
  For Charlton and Busby, it was the end of something, an achievement dedicated to others, required because of their memories of those who were not around to see it sakla
  
  They had the potential for greatness and it was wrenched from them amid the flames of a plane crash sakla
  
  And, from the ashes of tragedy, Bobby Charlton turned his talents into the two trophies that mattered most and meant something more to him sakla
  
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